#Industry4.0 Submarine Robot Factory

Robot Factory design concept from Terminator Salvation

Market Opportunity


Industrial Revolution 4.0 is all about custom product production,
localities often provide incentives for local production.
don’t have to pay customs or tariffs.

Can produce factories in one area and then ship them to places with high demand or good margins.


Investing Capital

I’m thinking what to do once become a multi-millionaire (billionaire) as a result of AGI development?


It is good to plan these things out, so am not shocked by huge amounts of
money and trivial goals.  Some people when they get rich, spend money on
trivial things, such as the nouveau riche,  brand names and extravagant
living. Me, no, there is a long-term plan ahead, and must stay focused.

Robots will be our new bodies which we can reincarnate into in future incarnations,
and thus allow us to live in near areas and explore them with bodies adapted to them.

A Home for Robots

To create a home for robots, have to find niches which are not inhabited
by humans, “out of sight, out of mind” as the saying goes.

On Earth all the land is claimed, even though some parts are uninhabited.
Land is something many humans feel very strongly about.  Even small rocks sticking out of the water, get nations riled up.
Underwater though, the deeper and farther from shore, the less it matters to
humans.  And 200km off shore is international waters.

A Submarine Factory

The basic idea is a concrete submarine, with all the tools inside necessary to make robots, and those robots could make new submarines.

For the actual submarine will need various tools on board, such as an electron beam lithography system (to make nanoscale chips),  a smelt (to refine raw minerals), a 3d printer,  CNC machine, wire pullers and the like.

So this will likely be a very large,  cruise-ship, or cargo-ship size submarine.

Maintenance Staff

“Little” or human size submarine robots similar to stanford’s humanoid submarine robots perhaps,  would do various tasks for and around the submarine.

Natural Resources

For instance could find some hot vent, and put some power generators on it to supply the submarine with electricity.
Could also mine the area for raw minerals which are to be smelted into the required substances for creating more robots.

Additionally these submarines could sell both the raw minerals, or some refined version in exchange for other things which may be easier to get on the international market.   Such as high speed internet access in the middle of the ocean.

They could also supply or help with surface seasteads which have humans on board, the humans could provide a plausible cover for their operations, and be proof that these are human-friendly robots.  They could also have the satelite dishes for the internet,  and the bottom of the surface seasteads would turn it into directed sonar signals, or via a hard line to the ocean floor robot base.

I’m interested in maps of the mineral and energy resources of the ocean.
Perhaps there are some particular areas with high concentrations, such as near fault lines.

Incremental Growth

I’m thinking I’ll have to start by bootstrapping my business, by making  a robot factory on land. Probably the focus would be on high quality custom robots, either singles or small batches.

Then would start a ship building company, producing autonomous water-taxis, ferries, luxury boats and then cargo carriers, possibly also seasteads if there is a market for them.
The idea would be to maximize the automation of the design and building both the robots and boats. One of the biggest challenges to ferro-cement boat creation is high cost of human labour.  If it was replaced by robot labour then it could make them affordable to produce.

For the robot factory, I’m thinking can structure it like a fish, raw materials would come in one end, and robots (and waste) would come out the other.  The robots could then repair the factory and supply it with resources.

High Pressure

Since no humans are necessary on board, could probably keep a high pressure atmosphere inside, especially when diving to great depths, any gas we pump in at those pressures (~40MPa or ~400atm) will be supercritical, so probably best to stick with nitrogen which is abundant and inert.  also can make nitrogen and nitride steels and other metals, which are less prone to corrosion than their carbon cousins.

Can have other supercritical gases in other areas for processes that require it.
Though initially I’m guessing it would be simplest to start with not the bottom of the ocean, like above 300m, or 500m if using krypton or xenon.
Another possibility is maintaining the main temperature under 30C, then can fill the hull with liquid CO2 or liquid NO2,  though CO2 would probably much easier to acquire in quantity. That way don’t have to deal with the unusual properties of supercritical fluids. The problem with using a liquid is that it might mix with the water when going in or out of the ship.

Are there any hydrothermal vents (or other power sources) above 300m depth? but outside the EEZ? they could be good starting points, while researching the effects of supercritical fluids on a robot factory.


based on  European canal size information from:

has to be able to raise out of the water so only just over 2m is below waterline. can be a max of 5m tall, 5m wide, and ~40m long. That is a tight squeeze for a robot factory.

However here in Owen Sound (North American, Great Lakes) we have larger boats, so presumably they can get to the Atlantic Ocean and back. For example there is the Algoma Olympic,  It is 223m by 23m, and 7.6m deep

It seems the Welland Canal is the limiting factor, but it is big enough to fit those boats.

That kind of size should be sufficient for a robot factory.




For a submarine we can probably have it half submerged for canals, so it could be 14m high.

#Novel Review: vN (The Machine Dynasty #1) by Madeline Ashby | A robot becomes a godess #robot #scifi #reproduction


vN is the story of how a robot becomes a goddess.  About 160 thousand words or a 13 hour read.  Four stars, can get it in book or ebook form.

Host Body Review

It seemed to be Drexler, or Von Neuman inspired robots, similar to those in Charles Stross’s Accelerando series.  The main difference being that in vN it is extremely easy for the robots to reproduce, in fact they have to diet to prevent themselves from reproducing.

Also the vN are effectively immortal, capable of healing themselves and growing full new bodies even if they are cut up into little pieces — as long as they have food.

In that sense, they are quite the opposite of modern robots, because real robots are prone to breaking down and are extremely difficult to reproduce — you typically need a whole ecosystem of refineries and factories to make a robot.

I would thus classify this as soft scifi, even though Charles Stross may consider himself to be hard-scifi I don’t find the idea of biologically inspired nano-machine based robots to be at all realistic due to their requirements of having a liquid medium.   Even though synthetic biology is viable, it would not be much different  current biology, due to the same physical limitations — reliance on liquid medium.

I generally characterize robots as “solid-based lifeforms” to differentiate from the goldilocks-zone confined “liquid-based lifeforms” or “watersacks” for short.

Much as in Drexler’s ideas, the nano-goo or smart-matter becomes center stage in the epilogue.

World Review

Again robots are portrayed as subservient workers, with the main emphasis of this book being that they serve as good companion/sex slaves.  Otherwise they are rather surprisingly treated as equals.  While there is mention of legal limitations on robot reproduction in one state, the obvious ecological strain that would be caused by exponentially replicating practically immortal beings is not explored in this book.


In conclusion, it is an action packed romance about a “flawed” immortal robot who unwittingly becomes effectively a goddess and queen through the force of events and luck. Her main accomplishment being forging a relationship with a male willing to rescue her from the brink of death.

I give it four stars for keeping me amused for roughly 13 hours and being RPOV (Robot Point of View).

Can get it in book or ebook form.







Novel: Isaac Asimov’s Inferno by Roger MacBride Allen #robot #scifi #mystery #whodunit


New Law Robots’ desire for freedom creates a massive black market, read on as a robot species’ fate hangs in the balance. About 105,000 words or a 9 hour read.

Solid writing, lovable characters, robot perspective writing, and robots with liberty;  I give it four and a half stars.  I take off that half star for a combination of factors, including the senseless promoting of humans over robots, and because I felt mislead as to the identity of the mastermind.
I think it is a worthwhile read, especially considering the next one is Isaac Asimov’s (Robot) Utopia!
Can get it for under $10 from bookfinder.

#Novel: Isaac Asimov’s Caliban by Roger MacBride Allen #robot #scifi #threelaws #robotics #climateChange

The climatological fate of a planet hangs in the balance of a crime investigation. Can you solve it before the sheriff? The clues are there. About 120 thousand words, or an 11 hour read.

New brands of robots with additional  liberties are found herein. If you like the throwback to 50’s scifi when Asimov thought the future would be like the American slavery era, except that the slaves would be metal, and people would have flying cars,  then this book is for you!

Goodish stuff! Well written. I give it a solid four out of five stars.

Had me glued to it for days even though I’m generally not a fan of mystery novels.

Can get it for under $10 at bookfinder, or maybe free at your local library!